It’s no secret that relations between North Korea and the United States have been on a rapid downturn in recent months, with Pyongyang launching a widely-condemned short-range ballistic missile into the sea in March and slinging insults at both Seoul and Washington shortly thereafter.

But even with the surge of diplomacy in 2018, the United States has kept up a ban stopping American citizens from traveling to the United States and has refused to lift any economic sanctions against the DPRK. To discuss what the new presidential administration should do next, NK News host Jacco Zwetsloot sat down with Anthony Ruggiero, a current senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense and Democracies. Ruggiero previously served in the U.S. government, working on North Korea-related issues and other security matters while advising key White House officials.